Tuesday, 24 June 2025

 From The Vale Tudo Sub Board


Closing the gap - and NOT the Wing Chun way!

shirotoratiger.proboards.com/thread/257/closing-gap-wing-chun


From the Grappling Sub Board

Judo vs Jujutsu

shirotoratiger.proboards.com/thread/77/judo-jujutsu



From the JuJutsu Board

Newaza progression

shirotoratiger.proboards.com/thread/1160/newaza-progression

contains this passage


In 2012 we are looking to refine the ground sets from the groundbud drill.

grappling and rolling on the mat

making it functional for the Street by doing it on the wood

anyone can grapple and apply moves on the mat, a soft padded surface

How many can come off the mat and do it on hard wood?

How many can do it on the pavement?

At STMA we Keep It REAL!


 NEWAZA



The First 8 JJ Principles as listed above

Scarf Hold to Choke
Side Mount with strikes and submissions
Transition to Mount

Apex Principle is EFFICIENCY

Timing and Contol

in KB range we have Timing and Distance


Connection
Detachment from the Connection to advance position and transition to submission
Distance - the correct distance for a choke or armlock
Pyramid
Triangles everywhere
a Triangle is 2 dimensions - a Pyramid is 3
the connection between the Ground, The Opponent and Yourself
Pressure - assisted by Gravity
if he gives you an opening or opportunity, take it
Creation rather than wait for an opportunity

Acceptance - if you are about to be Upa, accept it and use it to properly establish GUARD
Stage One Control
Triangle Choke
Arm Bar
Transition between the two
The Fork
Boxing - if the right one don't get you, the left one will

Velocity and Clock
Change the speed at which you apply the move
Fast and loose - slow and tight
mess up his timing when he is doing his move


 This thread from March 2023 amalgamates relevant threads and clips


shirotoratiger.proboards.com/thread/1892/punch-sucker-kenpo-free-clips



The "Homophobic redneck" again, and the Marius Rolles clip again, each in their own post


This is relevant as it's the one punch knocker/sucker punch/sniper option

Add this to Marius doing the B2a one punch KO on Rolles and you can see the relevance to Street Fighting


The Fence and Ko

Kenpo Freestyle and KO



Also added are the Mike Tyson clips - these are boxing matches of course, and great examples of when a fight has developed to "mid game" how these KO punches are landed, and the response of the opponent

Berbeck, Spinks and Bruno being the classic matches, then a montage clip


 We have been working the KENDO into KARATE theme post Easter Camp as we head towards the Summer




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This thread from March 2023 amalgamates relevant threads and clips

shirotoratiger.proboards.com/thread/1892/punch-sucker-kenpo-free-clips



The "Homophobic redneck" again, and the Marius Rolles clip again, each in their own post


This is relevant as it's the one punch knocker/sucker punch/sniper option

Add this to Marius doing the B2a one punch KO on Rolles and you can see the relevance to Street Fighting


The Fence and Ko

Kenpo Freestyle and KO



Also added are the Mike Tyson clips - these are boxing matches of course, and great examples of when a fight has developed to "mid game" how these KO punches are landed, and the response of the opponent

Berbeck, Spinks and Bruno being the classic matches, then a montage clip




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The Rolles v Marius clip thread - first posted seven years ago in 2018

shirotoratiger.proboards.com/thread/1561/rolles-gracie-first-round-power


My notes from the thread

Rolles is a Gracie family member and a 4th degree Black belt, the same grade as Royce was at when he won the first UFCs

Marius is a World Class strength athlete - for his cage prep he has focussed on Boxing and Kyokushin Karate, so has learnt how to functionalise his strength for combat

The breakdown in slo mo shows the perfect use of distance, timing, feint, jab, trap, and a big OH one punch KO



The First Rule is still, and always will be, LEARN TO HIT FUCKING HARD - even if you are fighting a GRACIE






As we have been working on this for a couple of weeks and will continue this week it becomes relevant


The KENDO One Cut Kill

which becomes the JUDO One Throw Kill


becomes the KARATE One Punch Kill



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Sport v Street

 

if there are rules that say you can't do something

if you can't gouge the eyes

if you can't strike the groin

if you can't use weapons

if you can't have multiple opponents at the same time

if you have a corner that can throw in the towel for you

if you can tap out


if you have a break between rounds to towel down and have water, and people there to bring you a stool to sit on

if people have to pay admission to see it



then it's a Sport



In a Street Self Defence Survival fight


there are no rules

you can't tap out

you can have multiple opponents - on either side

you can have weapons

no time limits or rounds


and you might not have a Team to help you, back you, cover you - but if you are smart and plan ahead, you can

every door fight I was involved in I had a Team and backup



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In a Street fight

anyone can get a lucky punch

a lucky knockout

if he has a knife he can get a lucky stab or cut

a lucky hit with a bat


nobody can get a lucky Guard Triangle Choke








 The Rolles v Marius clip thread - first posted seven years ago in 2018


shirotoratiger.proboards.com/thread/1561/rolles-gracie-first-round-power


My notes from the thread

Rolles is a Gracie family member and a 4th degree Black belt, the same grade as Royce was at when he won the first UFCs

Marius is a World Class strength athlete - for his cage prep he has focussed on Boxing and Kyokushin Karate, so has learnt how to functionalise his strength for combat

The breakdown in slo mo shows the perfect use of distance, timing, feint, jab, trap, and a big OH one punch KO



The First Rule is still, and always will be, LEARN TO HIT FUCKING HARD - even if you are fighting a GRACIE






As we have been working on this for a couple of weeks and will continue this week it becomes relevant


The KENDO One Cut Kill

which becomes the JUDO One Throw Kill


becomes the KARATE One Punch Kill


 In Class for the KB section we have been building the KARATE approach



POINTS
- punches to body
- kicks to body
- kick to head

KNOCKDOWN
- kicks to legs
- knees to body

FULL CONTACT
- gloves on, punches to head

So Full Contact Karate becomes Kickboxing at this point



NEXT:

There is an isolation in both which does not allow leg kicks, so boxing targets with karate kicks

there is then a differentiation between "kickboxing" and "Low kicks kickboxing"

we will explore these in drills, isolation, and in Sparring