Sep 24, 2009 at 10:20am
There is only ONE gun disarm we practice from the holdup position because we only need one - and it is THE ONE THAT WORKS!
We don't want to log jam somebody who faces this situation - you need ONE response to this threat that you have drilled so many times it is second nature.
You do not want options or choices you want ONE response that SAVES YOUR LIFE!
The scenario here is the attacker is standing in front of you holding the gun at your face or chest. You put your hands up, and he approaches. He is not shooting. This is most likely in a robbery situation.
1. Clear the gun and the line of fire. The gun may go off, it will not go off at you.
2. Grab the BARREL of the weapon and turn it back on him.
If it goes off now he will shoot himself and nobody else.
3. Use atemi to distract and remove the gun from his hand.
4. Finish using the gun butt as a striking weapon, backed with lo kix and HKE.
Do NOT shoot him with his own gun!
This scenario is based on REAL gun defence situations.
It is not imagined or assumed.
We don't want to log jam somebody who faces this situation - you need ONE response to this threat that you have drilled so many times it is second nature.
You do not want options or choices you want ONE response that SAVES YOUR LIFE!
The scenario here is the attacker is standing in front of you holding the gun at your face or chest. You put your hands up, and he approaches. He is not shooting. This is most likely in a robbery situation.
1. Clear the gun and the line of fire. The gun may go off, it will not go off at you.
2. Grab the BARREL of the weapon and turn it back on him.
If it goes off now he will shoot himself and nobody else.
3. Use atemi to distract and remove the gun from his hand.
4. Finish using the gun butt as a striking weapon, backed with lo kix and HKE.
Do NOT shoot him with his own gun!
This scenario is based on REAL gun defence situations.
It is not imagined or assumed.
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Apr 22, 2014 at 1:00am
After perfecting and maintain the Standard STMA gun def we then extend our practice using the 4 techniques from the Kempo Rod series.
This creates a series of 5 effective real world gun defences
The American Karate Masters, including Military Officers and Police Officers have developed "Rod" techniques, effective gun defences.
CAPTURED ROD
DEFYING THE ROD
TWISTED ROD
BROKEN ROD
And remember
- the gun itself is not the threat, it is the bullet that comes from the gun, so we are defencing Angle #5
- if the gun goes off, as it is likely to, it is loud and shocking, and make sure it is pointing away from you
This creates a series of 5 effective real world gun defences
The American Karate Masters, including Military Officers and Police Officers have developed "Rod" techniques, effective gun defences.
CAPTURED ROD
DEFYING THE ROD
TWISTED ROD
BROKEN ROD
And remember
- the gun itself is not the threat, it is the bullet that comes from the gun, so we are defencing Angle #5
- if the gun goes off, as it is likely to, it is loud and shocking, and make sure it is pointing away from you
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2023
First post in this thread was Summer 2009, which refers to the STMA Gun Disarm
There is only ONE gun disarm we practice from the holdup position because we only need one - and it is THE ONE THAT WORKS!
We don't want to log jam somebody who faces this situation - you need ONE response to this threat that you have drilled so many times it is second nature.
You do not want options or choices you want ONE response that SAVES YOUR LIFE!
The scenario here is the attacker is standing in front of you holding the gun at your face or chest. You put your hands up, and he approaches. He is not shooting. This is most likely in a robbery situation.
This scenario is based on REAL gun defence situations.
It is not imagined or assumed.
The second post, added five years later in 2014 lists the KENPO ROD series, which we added at that time:
The American Karate Masters, including Military Officers and Police Officers have developed "Rod" techniques, effective gun defences
In Class, when teaching the BASE GD, we show Delayed Sword which every Kenpo and Karate Yellow Belt knows, and Kote Gaeshi, which every Jujutsu and Aikido Yellow Belt knows, and how the STMA BASE Gun Def is based on these two basic techniques which are drilled into you over the years, an instinctive reflex response you can do under pressure
And remember
- the gun itself is not the threat, it is the bullet that comes from the gun, so we are defencing Angle #5
- if the gun goes off, as it is likely to, it is loud and shocking, and make sure it is pointing away from you
You may wonder, reading the 2009 post about the BASE Gun Def THE ONE THAT WORKS being the only one we practice, why did I add the four ROD post - and if so, as this makes now a list of five techniques, why not revise the wording of the original post
Reason is that the STMA Base Gun Disarm, as we call it, is the one that comes from our REAL history, and the one we used in our program and taught to everyone for those years, 2009 being the end of that Decade, and when the STMA school was founded
As we expanded the practice of STMA, adding lists of techniques and drills from our Source arts, including KENPO, we listed the ROD techniques here, as they appear at the end of Long Form Six, and as they are taught in the KENPO systems round the World
So while the STMA Base GD, the One That Works, is the foundation of that practice, the four Kenpo Rod techniques build on that and give you further options
The main point of the Gun Defence is we hope you never need to use it - this gives you a survival option if you ever do
In my case, at least one Bouncer in Croydon was shot on the door of his Club, at that range - being a Bouncer in Croydon, back in those days, I needed a method to make sure myself and my team were prepared for that situation - and that is what the Base technique give us, and what the Kenpo Rod Series expands on
There is only ONE gun disarm we practice from the holdup position because we only need one - and it is THE ONE THAT WORKS!
We don't want to log jam somebody who faces this situation - you need ONE response to this threat that you have drilled so many times it is second nature.
You do not want options or choices you want ONE response that SAVES YOUR LIFE!
The scenario here is the attacker is standing in front of you holding the gun at your face or chest. You put your hands up, and he approaches. He is not shooting. This is most likely in a robbery situation.
This scenario is based on REAL gun defence situations.
It is not imagined or assumed.
The second post, added five years later in 2014 lists the KENPO ROD series, which we added at that time:
The American Karate Masters, including Military Officers and Police Officers have developed "Rod" techniques, effective gun defences
In Class, when teaching the BASE GD, we show Delayed Sword which every Kenpo and Karate Yellow Belt knows, and Kote Gaeshi, which every Jujutsu and Aikido Yellow Belt knows, and how the STMA BASE Gun Def is based on these two basic techniques which are drilled into you over the years, an instinctive reflex response you can do under pressure
And remember
- the gun itself is not the threat, it is the bullet that comes from the gun, so we are defencing Angle #5
- if the gun goes off, as it is likely to, it is loud and shocking, and make sure it is pointing away from you
You may wonder, reading the 2009 post about the BASE Gun Def THE ONE THAT WORKS being the only one we practice, why did I add the four ROD post - and if so, as this makes now a list of five techniques, why not revise the wording of the original post
Reason is that the STMA Base Gun Disarm, as we call it, is the one that comes from our REAL history, and the one we used in our program and taught to everyone for those years, 2009 being the end of that Decade, and when the STMA school was founded
As we expanded the practice of STMA, adding lists of techniques and drills from our Source arts, including KENPO, we listed the ROD techniques here, as they appear at the end of Long Form Six, and as they are taught in the KENPO systems round the World
So while the STMA Base GD, the One That Works, is the foundation of that practice, the four Kenpo Rod techniques build on that and give you further options
The main point of the Gun Defence is we hope you never need to use it - this gives you a survival option if you ever do
In my case, at least one Bouncer in Croydon was shot on the door of his Club, at that range - being a Bouncer in Croydon, back in those days, I needed a method to make sure myself and my team were prepared for that situation - and that is what the Base technique give us, and what the Kenpo Rod Series expands on
