Saturday 27 July 2024

 


In the RING Phase we have been working on Point Karate to Full Contact Karate to Kickboxing to Low Kicks - which takes us back to the STMA Standard KB Sparring, now having covered the Karate element



FULL CONTACT KARATE - KICKBOXING


The first Full Contact Karate was just that - Karate as far as it had gone, now with Boxing gloves, allowing Head punching, fighting for KO

Boxing added to Karate in it's first format for what was then called KICKBOXING

Backfist was allowed, as were Sweeps, leg kicks were not

The Spinning Backfist became a matter of debate - rules was both Camps had to agree for it to be used


FULL CONTACT KARATE - This was essentially the format of Points Karate with boxing gloves and head punching now done full contact, the longer stances with added contact


KICKBOXING - this was when Karate fighters went to cross train at Boxing gyms, learn the proper boxing format, train and spar Boxing, use the full boxing equipment, and do conditioning

- there were also Boxers who "added Kicks" by going to cross train at a Karate club and spar Karate fighters

Though there was an overlap during the developmental years, the "finished product" is the same thing in terms of Sparring and Competing



In terms of where this format sits, it can come directly after Points Karate as that is how it started - Points fighters went on to have Full Contact matches, then what became KICKBOXING developed from that

- Knockdown developed in parallel by KyokushinKai

- Knockdown fighters were seen on KB later with Low Kick format

- Semi Contact came later, developed AFTER Full Contact was established




LOW KICKS KICKBOXING


KB with the Low Kicks added back in so the format changed

- the format of the Knockdown Karate contests with the Boxing gloves and head punches added and the knees removed

- like Thai without knees and elbows


This is the Standard format of KICKBOXING practiced at STMA sessions


 

Existing thread about Andy Hug with notes and clips

shirotoratiger.proboards.com/thread/1591/andy-hug-kick


New clips


Andy started out in Kyokushin Knockdown then progressed to K1 Kickboxing and had a Thai Boxing career


TOP 10 ANDY HUG KNOCKOUTS

www.youtube.com/watch?v=srMMR3tOSSc


Greatest Karate Fighter. Andy Hug

www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VM3VGW_HgM


Spinning heel kick to the leg Andy Hug (K-1)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7szHaw_cfE



Clips with highlight from old Karate matches

Kicks, punches, knees, sweeps, throws, knockouts



World Championships 1987 Karatê Old School

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh4j8Ams_dk&t=37s


Shotokan Karate Kumite Highlights

www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMtdAy9oriQ


Karate tournament from the 90's

www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuJBkfmt-48&pp=ygUSa2FyYXRlIHRvdXJuYW1lbnQg

more development here, fights in the ring, sleeveless gi tops and no gi tops, full Judo throws, Andy Hug, and some male bonding cuddles at the end



TRADITIONAL SHOTOKAN KARATE BEST KNOCKOUTS

www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDi24VTvbAw



 

NINPO KOPPO

Looked at Modern GOSHIN weapons

Knuckle Duster
Yawara
Security torch

The Kukushin Gata done with TESSEN and JUTTE done with the Torch
- the use of the light itself to distract

- this is based on KATONJUTSU in Togakure, the use of Fire - in daytime the use of mirrors to reflect sunlight, in modern times torchlight


KEMPO applications eg Five Swords



 

New thread with some Karate contest clips


shirotoratiger.proboards.com/thread/1974/karate-tournament-clips


this has been updated with some new posts

Look at TKD, which we don't do

Look at SC freestyle, which we do - and shows why we don't need TKD


Thai and Savate

some crossover


We are not suggesting you binge watch all the posted footage, though you could if you felt inclined - the purpose is to post examples of the formats we are training in this Season with the Isolations and Progressions and that we reference to in Class



Best Of The Best - film clips

 

US Karate team vs Korean team - 5 fighters one fight each

Korea use classical TKD - US team a bit more mixed

They were a competition uniform based on a Gi, as well as the forearm pads and VT type gloves


This clip the US team watch a reel introducing their opponents - breaking techniques which turn out to be the hits the then use in the matches against them

www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU-Eh4yqMGU


The first two fights don't seem to have clips posted right now


Travis

www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsnGQOuifzM


Alex

www.youtube.com/watch?v=PczEE2bcCbM

www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOicvrMjgBw


Tommy

www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxM5siiWZz4


They even manage a Hollywood bar fight which includes someone going through the pinball, a table and getting kicked through a window

www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI_1e8XMIeQ



 

Semi Contact Freestyle Karate



Sideways SC FS stance

better kicking than TKD

more use of hands

no headgear or body armour


this is the SC format we use, and the SC sets are based around drills and techniques used in this format



Highlight clip of World Champion Alfie Lewis from 90s - best way to showcase this


www.youtube.com/watch?v=04dYnfV_gUc




Alfie Lewis vs Kevin Brewerton Clash of the Titans

www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4PpjrbSVMI



Taekwondo

Though we don't use the TKD format for drilling or sparring, it would be a version of Savate Kick Only anyway, it is interesting to watch their clips


TKD is based on Shotokan

they use the same basic pads

add the headgear as they expect to take heavy head kicks

their defence against head kicks is bad

few punches

the body armour is called a Hogu, worn due to taking heavy body kicks

their defence against body kicks is bad



Korean Nationals 1997 Taekwondo

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP0FgbdIf8I


this is a comparison between the hard fierce TKD fights of the 90s, compared later years

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4jgOJ1jins



 

KNOCKDOWN KARATE



Karate tournament from the 80's

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Enhe7joKtMk&t=15s

includes breaking dems

Enshin Karate tournament from the late 80's (early 90's)

The tournament is open to advanced competitors of any style.
The rules including use of grabs (one handed), sweeps and throws, in addition to kicks, punches, knees and other strikes. It is full contact karate with no gloves. Only striking to the head is restricted, but full power kicks to the head, neck and face are allowed.

Enshin was an off shoot of Kyokushin - the dojo training involves more Sabaki and evasion that Jap Karate usually uses



Kyokushin Karate KNOCKOUTS

www.youtube.com/watch?v=maiQ2SzSJnM

note the use of the spinning hook kick to the head for a KO - this version uses a double leg jump so is a kind of "sutemi" henka - doesn't always work but you can see what happens when it lands clean


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Full Contact Karate


Rick Roufus • King of Full Contact

www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1oXKtNnoaw


Rick "The Jet" Roufus Highlights

www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd9LgHwhr-g


there is a lot of crossover in these two clips but they are worth going through

Yes, that is Van Damme watching and commenting

of note is his use of the jump spinning back kick, which comes out in bag work and then in full contact



Classic Full Contact Karate Knockouts

www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbqjwsZZmy0

www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9T4V2wtU5I


This is the best example of how Karateka in the 80s put on the gloves, got in the boxing ring and had literal Full Contact versions of the Karate matches

gloves
kick boots
shinguards
gumshield
trousers
no shirt


the precursor to what became Kickboxing



The terms for Full Contact Karate into Kickboxing evolved progressively over time with the different matches and rules people were trying out

Karate Dojo sparring is what led to the first Karate matches - Kumite as a contest, fighting an opponent from a different club on the mats

Sparring with your Dojo mates to help each other train and learn was different from fighting an opponent from another club at a match

which is how is was with Kendo and Judo


For FC, the Karate fighters looked at what Boxing did

Big gloves
gumshields
no shirt
boots
boxing ring

Karateka took to the boxing ring, no shirts, long pants, gloves and gumshields, and added boots and shinguards

when it first became called Kickboxing that was a generic term that evolved naturally

it became difficult to determine what was Full Contact Karate and what was Kickboxing as it had become the same thing


as we said, Semi Contact evolved later and separately


In the Dojo you wore your gi for sparring kumite on the mat

at match you wore your gi for kumite on the mat

in the ring you took off your gi jacket, added more gear

SC contests back on the mat had the gi back on, with gear, with contact limited



Classic Kickboxing KO Compilation | International/Freestyle Rules

www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKaQohguu8I

In the late 1970s, the use of low kicks in kickboxing competition was popularized by the WKA, thereby challenging the standard of strict above-the-waist fighting predominantly used by the PKA. This allowed North American martial artists the opportunity to not only develop their skills but also engage in competition with the rest of the world - meeting competitors from Japan, the Netherlands and Australia on their own terms.

This compilation showcases knockouts from fights utilizing these rules, from the 1970s to the 1990s. It features matches from the WKA, AJK, ISKA, KICK, Taipan, and Blitz Kickboxing Promotions.




KICKBOXING

The real difference in the next stage of the evolution of Kickboxing was the Boxers who added kicks to be able to compete in that format

They went to Karate to learn the kicks, how to drill, spar and apply them

without years of Karate training and development they did not have attributes and dexterity for contact head kicks, and that didn't develop until later

In Boxing the primary four punches are Jab, Cross, Hook and Uppercut done to the head for a KO - the punches are done to the body of course, though these are secondary and "supporting" the head KO - developed on the Focus pads

In Karate the primary four kicks are mygeri, kekome, mawashi and ushiro - these are done to the body with the head kicks being "secondary supporting" - developed on the shield

The backfist as secondary punch and hook kick as secondary kick, as they are in Karate, were incorporated - front, rear and spinning versions, done to the head as KO

The ashi harai foot sweep was allowed in the matches and used the same way You had a style of KB which then mainly focussed on head punching and body kicking, with focus pad and kicks shield as the drilling methods


then of course we get to

Low Kicks KB

K-1 | Low Kick KO Compilation (1993-1999)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0OXuFqMx0g


K-1 | Low Kick KO Compilation (1999-2010)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RDz5nTyROk



K-1 Impact! KO Highlights

There is quote a lot of footage available, and worth going over whether you binge or take your time, as this is the closest to the Sparring we do in Class done as contest


www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcXoJhXYeAU

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EF538AblEM

www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcuyoVofiFY

www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPtRI8YAiN8


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This week we will start to look more at this format - and clips have been posted to the clip thread for reference


SEMI CONTACT KICKBOXING - FREESTYLE KARATE


This developed later than Full Contact, however for development it fits better in between


More armour is used

Headgear
Shin guards
Forearm pads
Bigger gloves - not full boxing gloves
Boots
Groinguard and gumshield


Continuous fighting for the round, with points added up like Clicker or in Boxing match

Semi contact, so harder than Points, though the intention is to win on Points NOT to KO the opponent


Stance is the Freestyle Semi Contact Stance, side on Horse Stance Kiba Dachi

- different hand guard position, more use of lead leg, quicker spin back kick, longer lunge for rear punch


Punches and kicks to head and body

No leg kicks

Sweeps allowed

As well as backfist and spinning backfist the HAITO Ridge Hand started to be used


These Contests matched Karate against other styles including TKD - the Lau Gar clubs did particularly well in these events





We will then revisit this format in following weeks - and relevant clips will be posted and referenced to



KNOCKDOWN KARATE


Kyokushin contest - continuous fighting with "clicker" to tally points, so the match does not stop on a YAME with an individual hit as Points Karate or Kendo

- can win by Knockdown NOT Knock out, though KO can and do occur


More square on stance, so all tools are lined up, and heavier more effective defence


Contact with Kicks to legs, body and head

Kicks to head - no punches

Contact punches to body

Leg kicks are more complex, as is the block and counter - this looks similar to THAI but is more detailed

Just as KALI with the double stick is far more sophisticated than KRABI, so Kyokushin on the low leg is more sophisticated than THAI - the Shin Bud we do is developed from this


Knees allowed in Contest SHIAI though not in Sparring KUMITE - they are drilled in Sparring sessions

In Sparring with Knees, either you hold back too much, or someone gets hurt, there is no middle ground, so it is just drilled realistically and safely


Closer range as kicks are done with shin not boot

This creates a closer range punch and knees flow naturally

In KB terms this is more like THAI




This form of Karate Sparring brings us closer to a KB match and closer to a real Street fight

Those who spar "standard" karate, with the longer distance kicking and punching often doubt the realism and whether the "one punch, one kill" concept really works as it would with a "one cut one kill" of the Sword

This form of Kumite removes that doubt and brings Sport Karate and Dojo sparring closer to Original Karate in it's form and effectiveness



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